This part is for sell between $20 to well over $200big price range !! Get an estimate instantly. If it happens again, I guess I'll be checking with the BBB because while this model gets high marks for reliability, I think there is something wrong with THIS particular car. The check engine light was still on tho'. Let me know if you want to compare notes. My car has started to idle poorly lately. DV = deep vein ******. check with the Better Business Bureau. You can get the valve on its own, or get that module as a whote. I used to clean it every 4 to 6 months with carburetor spray and had no problem with the idle. It hasn't happened since April. Amongst the symptoms are the vehicle losing power especially when climbing uphill. I was so furious that I drove straight to the dealership - at 30 mph I might add- and pulled into the service bay. Idle problem . OK as you know I am currently having fun and games with the idle on my motor. I assured them that it was always "fixed" but they wanted their tech support to work with the dealership to find the underlying problem. I believe it can be set electronically but my OBD 11 reader does not work on this Pinin so basically I need to position this by "ear". I have been thinking of trading in for a Toyota. However, without any intention to diminish the occasional problems (electrical & mechanical) that the Outlander may have from time to time, I may say, that if you have come across other car manufacturer forums (see for example the Honda Pilot or the Subaru Forester) Mazda, Honda, Toyota, Suzuki, Subaru, Chevrolet, etc, etc; the number of complaints and re-calls are 2 to 3 times more than the Outlander. this site (http://www.auslancer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=7391)also lists how to set the throttle stop with a feeler gauge if you've mucked around with it. 1. Sent it to BBA REA MAN they say they have repaired it and due back tomorrow. After a while it starts to run better, but only idles at 300-500. Noisy valve tappets silenced after switching to Shell Helix oil. In the same way, Google will find posts in other forums, in blogs, and you will find them when you do a Google search - but there is nothing to say that the content of such a forum or blog has any merit. Please help! Quotes have ranged from 75.00 for a Mitsubishi Lancer Equippe throttle body to 195.00 for a Mitsubishi Lancer throttle body. I can get either, I suppose the later one might be better. Sounds like you may be right, because a mechanic told me I needed a new throttle body, but I didn't believe him. Right, on my to do list! this idle time is very important since it allows the ecu to reacquire the engine parameters it needs. I took mine off to check the MD part number on it, But I couldn't any numbers on it, that would identify it. Again, I should have stuck with Audi. The TPS is set by rocking it side to side (losten the screws a bit first) with throttle closed to set the base resistance.TPS has a rectangular plug - pins looks like this: [(1) (3) (4) ] the base-line idle value is in the manual. eac60-005 throttle body assy mitsubishi shogun pinin pajero pinin h77w 2.0. mr560127 fuel pressure sensor mitsubishi shogun pinin pajero pinin h67w 2.0. mitsubishi shogun pinin vivo ii mk1 2003 1.8 mpi 4g93 4wd throttle body. This has all happened since I hit 11,000 miles last October. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Throttle-Position-Sensor-Standard-TH404-fits-0 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GEGT6710-283-Throttle-Position-Sensor-TPS-Fits What I will say is thanks Bob for searchihg a few out. Vehicle Info Required to Guarantee Fit. I'm in Suriname. They have asked me which so I'll take the ******19 one. I found this forum (the Pajerio forum) using Google, and, the posts here are the opinions of the forum members and not necessarily factual. It just sounds really lame to me. Yeah, thats it. Do I need to go back and read carefully your posts, or is that true? The needle will be jumping up and down instead of remaining at a constant speed. at 315,000kms my idle went odd - first no idle then idle at 2000rpm. I'm really sorry but I can't help - it has been a long time since I had mine and I have forgotten most of what I did with the TPS. Cleaned ground and re-tested. $96.49. Winding mays be different, who know. (i did it here when fitting a strut bracehttp://pajerio.com/forum/bobs-io#comment-17746). Hey guys i've been reading this entire thread and starting to think that mabe I too suffer from a similar problem)) could you tell me out of what manual did you get this sheet out of (Precautions Before Service Learning function of GDI Engine)? During the course of today, I will make a point of getting my laptop and finding the detail and adding it to this thread. The guy that has been helping me at the dealership over the phone trying to get it repaired around here, says he will work me in as soon as I get there. cleaned intake with an expensive brand intake cleaner (liqui moly) then cleaned throttlebody and idle controller seat with a good throttle body cleaner and presto it works fine. Your car qualifies under the Lemon Law. How much does Throttle Body Replacement cost in Palmdale, CA? I add petrol additives for keeping jets and such clear of varnishing. 3. Back to top Display posts from previous: Jump to: Sign in or register to get started. That's a good tip. thanks dude! Nothing in this country apart from Mitsy dealers. body. I could do with a idle sensor too..can you find one of those? now i'm assuming correctly you have a MPI not a GDI motor - correct? It is beyond me that the EXACT same problem would be occur because of a faulty battery. My 07 has 15,000 miles on it. You buy a new car, you don't expect to have it towed on a regular basis. Mitsubishi Shogun Pinin 2.0 GDI failed emissions. I will never buy another if I live to be 100. I am thinking that maybe yours and mine might be swapable. Car Breakers. How to fix 118,970 views Jun 7, 2017 358 Dislike Share Save Cilibrik 382. I find acronyms really frustrating. Will see how much some parts cost. ECU regulates air through throttle to manitain idle via idle solenoid. ('99 GDI 1.8L 4G93), saw this on ebay, we are currently guessing after actual tests and ruling out of other possibilities, that this might be the problemi checked the part on our iO the slots are slightly different (vs "cross" slot on round sectionas shown in this item photo), hope to get feedback as our iO has been down for more than a month now:(, thank you in advance! The Swedish massage that she does is perfect for injuries/ muscle sprains and tight muscles that I get from" more. TPS has a rectangular plug - pins looks like this: [ (1) (3) (4) ] the base-line idle value is in the manual. No much saving for you in that case and you will have a new one tooyou are still in front :), going through issues with our iO as well..finding this thread extremely useful, could you kindly confirm if this would work on our iO? POST REPLY. The top air flow system can be removed completely by loosening the screws on both sides. :(. I may have waited too late to take advantage of the lemon law. I'm going to recap what happened to my car and hopefully this will help somebody else with an Outlander. STAGE 2 > Hi-Perfomance Engine Motor - Port Match, Mildly Bore-Port & Polish Throttle Body & Install up to 5% Oversize Throttle Body Butterfy Plates - Increase Engine Motor Breathing for Mid-Range and Top-End Power; STAGE 3 > Race Engine Motor - Port Match, Bore-Port & Polish of Throttle Body & Install up to 10% Oversize Throttle Body Butterfy . The Mitsubishi Pajero Owners Club . Thought I might work on my car, but didnt even move for me in the slightest. I have had problems since purchase (9/06) with the check engine light and loss of power. Depending on your Mitsubishi L200 engine and where you live, the price can be higher or lower. Does this mean I need the *********319? The cost of a good battery is between $70-$100. You insert 2 wires into the TPS plug (in the middle 2 pins) parallel to the wires (they must come in about 15 mm) in this way you are sure to contact the contacts. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-GENUINE-Mitsubishi-Pajero-i0-QA-1-8L-4G93-Throttle-Position-Sensor-TPS-/121003916317?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c2c653c1d. Idle problem . Hey Bob, what spray throttle body cleaner would be best to use, I have never used any before and what stuff do I use to also spray in the intake to clean the gunk from around the valves and stuff ? Body Contouring. http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=1438&category_id=606&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1. He advised to bring it back in the next day and I requested to speak to the manager. I know its not a proper fix but it will do for now untill I work out whats going wrong. Does your want to stall when you also turn the Air Con on? I was trying to get the 319 but all they had was the 318 so I took that. im also having the same problem with my 1.8 gdi. You could also say to the wrecker up front that youneed to be able to bring it back and swap for something else if the first one you try doesn't fit. There is a downloadable copy of the service manual in the resource section of the site - I can't state that that page came from it though. also be sure to keepthe transmissionin park or neutral so as not to interfere with the ecu resetting itself. I can't find the article that explains how anymore, but basically the procedure is: GDI motor Mitsubishi. this will occur if you run low octane fuel as well - what octane do you run? It happened in October 09, it happened 4th of July weekend and 700 miles and 5 weeks later, it happened again. this car was having issues of bad combustions it won't accelarte properly plus it had a very bad egr problem find and fixed If you are looking at the engine from the front of the car, look on the manafold under where it bends over into the engine. Oh I cant beleive I didnt even consider that!! The rev was standing constant at ~500 rpm.To clean it, just spray in the intake 2-3 times, clean with a toothbrush and cotton cloth, making sure that you don't leave any fluff or drop the toothbrush inside :)).Do this operation 2-3 times, clean very well inside the body and soak all the liquid inside.Let the car run for about 20 minutes or just drive it for the same amount of time to ensure that all the liquid inside the throttle body is evaporated. Disconnect the throttle actuator, TPS connected Ok, I did some playing around. I have located. The more stars the safer the car. The Mitsubishi Pajero, Shogun, Montero, Challenger, Raider and EVO 4x4 Owner's Club. Is it authoritative? 2.0 GDI AUTO 2002, check on OBD reader for fault codes, if no fault codes, clean throttle body and get it checked or replace coil packs if engine is hunting and not accelerating as it should, if not change Crank Position Sensor, car will not go more than 30mph or over 3000rpm if its Crank Position Sensor or Coil Packs, if plugs are oiling badly, then piston rings have gone in Engine! It now has 15k. Has anyone else had similar problems? Get an estimate instantly. I have had it in the Mitsubishi shop numerous times (8 over 1 yr). Went to mitsubishi and they told me there is some wax element inside the throttle body somewhere that needs replacing (sounded like crap to me). Yes, it runs just fine until it doesn't. Sort by: Replacement. Didn't matter. My brother has a Mitsubishi Lancer and has had some major problems with his car, too. Pulled it out. I think they're doing what they can or what Mitsu tells them to do. I just replaced my accelerator pedal positioning sensor and a new battery and still have the problem. When I had my car towed, I called AAA (I'm a member) and they towed it for me to the dealership. You might want to check with your car insurance company and ask if they would pay for all or part of the towing cost. If you will, please let me know what happens with you. after dignose i have a trouble shoot on no 64 alt fr sig and no 92 etv mtr fb anyone have any idea what is that. Just two minutes ago literally I bought one from the US costing$20 and the same for postage. The car will suddenly decelerate and even with the gas pedal to floor will only go ~ 30 MPH. anything EFI throttlebody cleaner is fine - and MAF cleaner for the air intake. pin 1 to 4 reads maximum value same as throttle wide open. the proper procedure iswith engine shut offyou then proceed to disconnect the battery andleaveitdisconnected for a few minutes (15 minutes should be enough). The one you bought is new and the freight from Australia to UK would have been expensive. and model . Idling is much improved after ecu relearning, engine runs a lot smoother after a throttle body cleaning. If I turn the trottle under the bonnet by hand anti clockwise the car will stall. Service, parts, cost & recommendations from YourMechanic. 5. - might be a better bet that trying a 1.8l one. So I set it back to normal, and redid the entire precess. sorry i named it wrong but it is the correct part. it may need A de-coke. sorry for delay could not log in so re registered. it did move about 1/2mm when activated off the throttle body but wasn't sure if this is all it moved. Mine is a 4G94 Engine, Can anyone check their car to see if they Identify a part number? Let run for 10 minutes again. The throttle body can bee seen on the driver side under the engine cover. I don't, as I would like to give it a go also. You have a likely chance to get your car replaced. Fixed the idle prob's, got my multi meter and done the TPS and then took the idle valve thingy out of the spare throttle boby I have and changed all while the positive was disconnected and wamm all good apart from starting from cold it rev's at 2300 which is way too high until it warms up. Over time, dirt and grime that escapes through the air filter can accumulate in the throttle body, this results in improper throttle valve movement, which causes problems with the control of the air supply. He thinks a magnet has come loose inside throttle body. Well, they seem to have found the problem! I normally put 15k on my vehicles a year, but I don't trust this car to get me where I'm going so I've continued to drive my other vehicle most of the time. Well I plan on doing it after work, if I remember to take me extra long bendyish screwdriver home. We have to tow it there to see what they say. as engine management light not coming on i hope it is okay to drive for a while until i can find a cheaper de coke option. So I am going to pull the IAC off and see if it gunked up. I can't even imagine how exasperated you must be. Ok.") -- so if you show that to a Mitsubishi dealership, they should be able to to locate the wire. Hi, having had throttle body reconditioned for the third time, everything fine for two months but now when accelerating, especially before engine has fully warmed up, the revs lag behind repeatedly but do not drop back. Idle Air Volume Learning (Throttle Position Learning) Several choices, Doctoc in Veterinary Medecine or Digital Voltmeter, My io is now SOLD Thankshttp://pajerio.com/forum/claudes-io-2002-zr-built-thread-onlyhappy-io, OMG. 0.8Kohms i'm pretty sure is what you are looking for from 1-3 when throttle sitting closed. My bottom line this time was if it happened again, I'm all done. Maybe its also broken, thought i got some small movement out of it with my power supply at home. I am given assurances every time that the problem is fixed only to have it happen again. Car make. However, I then called my car insurance company to ask if any of this was covered in my policy and they reimbursed me for the entire cost. and no joy. Home BBA reman forum Problems and Solutions Mitsubishi Shogun Pinin 2.0 GDI failed emissions. I am going to get the battery replaced and wait for it to happen again. I've put 1500 miles on it. Price estimates last updated 4 months ago. Do you know where the IAC is on the throttle body? I can put it in gear, step on the gas, and it will go maybe 15 miles an hour. So I decided I would adjust the idle with that little adjustment bit under the small back cap (forgot its name) and use that to bring up my idle. Let Fixter take the strain! Others on the internet with the same problem zeroed in on the battery which indeed permanently fixed it. I made it clear if it happens again I'm going to unload this car. Author: Message: bob1957: Posted Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:07:17 PM . My car won't even idle at all when cold but when warmed up it's good ?? p.s I love this forum! The throttle body starts to gather dust and restricts air flow through it causing the vehicle to judder and stall and generally lose power . Knowing what to look for (Outlander ) helps a lot! So I would be sure what they are telling you about first. I need to ask..Do you have the idle sensor? Turn ignition switch is "OFF' wait at least 10 seconds. I think it's just a defective car..but I did as I was told. You just remove the air filter and the plastic part from the top of the engine. I have had problems since purchase (9/06) with the check engine light and loss of power. I have yet to try it on the road but it looks like the IS that I boughtis no good to me. Should i re set engine management as per handbook when battery has been disconnected? Massage. One thing I have noticed about mine is that the end is sticking out a lot further then all the photos of them I have seen, which is making me think that its jammed up and can not move in far enough to let enough air to pass by. The garage we went to said it is saying to reprogram the computer and adjust throttle body. Car would occasionally stall, be hard starting, and have problems staying running without additional pressure on the pedal and I read about how a low battery can cause a lot of these faults despite the ability to crank the engine over (normally it gets to not being able to crank the engine before most people detect a failing battery, but these days with electronics low voltage problems can effect how the car runs long before the inability to crank shows up). Should be here in about 10 days. I had a choice of two part numbers (see above) but could only get the **********318. I think I know the one! A faulty Exhaust Gas Recirculation Valve that it is in the engine body is the main cause of loss of engine power even when pressing the accelerator pedal all the way. Fitted it back on and idles slightly better without a clicking noise that was coming from throttle body before,still has jerky acceleration though? EAC60-005 Throttle Throttle Mitsubishi Pajero Pinin 2.0 GDI * In Exchange (Fits: Mitsubishi) Refurbished | Business EUR 619.00 or Best Offer + EUR 20.00 postage from Poland Last one 5 watchers Sponsored EAC60-003 BUTTERFLY VALVE THROTTLE Volvo Mitsubishi 1.8 GDI 24 Months Warranty (Fits: Mitsubishi) Pre-owned | Business EUR 449.00 or Best Offer Having said that - the procedure outlined by singlecell appears to be similar to what I remember from the workshop manual. If you would like I can mail it to you to try? what i did notice was that the intake for the idle controller on the io (MPI engines only) is on the low side of the throttle body so any depbris or residue that travels in the intake will likely collect in the idle circuit. Few years ago I witnessed a problem with a car that was not a Mitsubishi whereby the engine appeared to lose power even by pressing the accelerator pedal until the vehicle stopped. This is a common issue on the Shogun Pinin and How many miles it done??? BTW, the general manager at the dealership has owned 3 Outlanders and has never had a single problem. Hi - I just saw your message now, so sorry for this late reply. I'll have to take the current market value (which is half of what it retailed for 3 years ago), but I will want OUT of this car. lol. I think the total miles towed was about 25, which cost me $100 after the 5 free miles deduction I have with my AAA membership. http://pajerio.com/forum/claudes-io-2002-zr-built-thread-onlyhappy-io, http://www.auslancer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=7391, www.pajerio.com - Pajero iO / TR4 / Pinin Forums. I was under the impression this shouldnt happen as the idle air controller valve should keep the engine happy with air. And a photo of a newer one someone bought for their 4g18 looked more like yours. Battery should be changed every 4-5 years. Unfortunately it corrected itself when I turned off the ignition. Hi: Thanks for the heads-up on the BBB/Lemon law. I have had it in the Mitsubishi shop numerous times (8 over 1 yr). I also use once a year the "upper cylinder cleaner" spray that goes in the intake vaccum hose - compression in a can! If we turn off engine and restart it it goes OK for a while. - warm up engine by driving for a while Part Number: RJ31500001. I have to commute 20-40 miles one way every day to work. Ok. Found high resistance caused by insecure ground at ECM due to high paint build-up. . I sold it for next to nothing, gave it away, to a dealer just to see the back of it. Size is not important; it's how you use it that matters! 1.8 mpi ac50-357 throttle body assy shogun pinin pajero pinin h66w 1.8. . "Brandy is awesome and her massages are the best! Is that all. Local mechanic says not showing symptoms of being coked up although says they are very prone to it. I was googling lancer parts for ages, and didnt even think to look at one. if you don't let it idle for at least20 minutes then you'll see your mileage go down and it may not shift right (for those with a/t). When I changed my Idle speed controller on my throttle body I had to disconnect the battery for 10 minutes in order to reset. It looks worn at the front. I can use my finger over the intake hole, and control the revs. I have adjusted the throtle cable a bit but it didnt do much. Nitrous reborn. throttle position sensor and idle problem: 1998 Mitsubishi Pajero iO: joy Netherlands Antilles, curacao, Willemstad: Nov 6, 2010: Front Brake Disc: 1999 Mitsubishi Pajero iO; None . Make sure that accelerator pedal is fully released: 2. When the scan machine was electronically connected to the car it gave an error code which was identified that the Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) valve was defective. The average cost is usually around 500 including parts and labour. Mine is from 1999 and is used off road every now and then. Service, parts, cost & recommendations from YourMechanic. The battery of my SC300 seemed to work fine but the passenger window stop to be operative and the window switch seemed to cease to operate, so I thought that the switch control has gone. I had something similar with a Dodge Dakota. If I turn the trottle under the bonnet by hand anti clockwise the car will stall. It isnt a sensor though, it s solinoid valve. Following this process, idling should remain constant. Why simpify when it is simpler to complicate. After replacing the throttle body assembly, it is "so far, so good". In my case It could be temporarily fixed by unplugging the battery and the default mode while the computer was relearning things made the problem appear to go away until the computer had finished relearning (couple of days I think) and then it was back again. But I still don't trust a long drive. New DENSO DOX-0341 Sensor from UK for half the price compared to Mitsubishi and problem fixed. Before the change of battery this control was erratic. Thank you. I have also read there is a thermostat right near it to that plays a part on controlling the valve also, which could also be the problem. Had simmilar Problem on my IO 1.8 GDi DOHC A/T. Just talked to Mitsubishi on the phone, That sensor is $422 plus GST, two in the country, Geez I want to be sure that's the fault. Well I gave it a try, didnt do anything for me. 1x 1450A033 Throttle Body for 4D56U 4M41 Engine Mitsubishi L200 B40 PAJERO MONTERO SPORT Triton STRADA 2.5D Throttle Valve 60mm US $84.99 Free Shipping Free Return 66666autoparts Store TF-TBEJVO123SL Top Quality 70mm Aluminum Silver Throttle Body For Mitsubishi Lancer EVO 1 2 3 4G63 1992-95 Remanufactured US $140.09 Free Shipping So where the air is flowing to is fine. 4. Ill have to check it out. I have seen ones that look exactly like might that have come from 4g94s. Please let me know if any of this makes sense. If so, that's too bad. When reving the car, the valve does move back and forth a bit, maybe a 1mmish. Next the TPS - lost endless screws when taking the old TPS off - whacked the new one on, started it up and just the same, idle at 3000. Checked and cleaned or replaced everything,EGR Valve, PCV Valve, Purge Control Solenoid Valve and Run lots of Injector cleaner through fuel system, replaced fuel pump relay etc. Also I can get a complete throttle body from the local wreckers for 40 bucks, but I think the care their is the 1.8L, which I dont think is compatible with my engine, but I might go grab it and find out. The OXYGEN SENSOR controls the fuel injection and if that is not correct there seems to be a domino effect with all the other systems that try to over compensate for this. Pin 1 to pin 3 varies with throttle opening from low/closed to high/open. Lots of JDM iO's here, nearly all GDI I think. are having this same problem? I'm keeping my fingers crossed because winter is coming to Minnesota very soon. Runs smooth at high RPM's. because currently i am having a issue where my vehicle is idling too high and it will not shift gears only at 6000 rpm, and i checked my TPS with my multimeter and all 3 wire have power on them so i am not sure if one is suppose to be a ground or what exactly because my plug layout is the same as [(1) (3) (4)], and the pin 3 is my signal as i have confirmed and without engine on i am getting 4.89 Volts and turning the throttle open changes these values higher which i am pretty sure i am suppose to be seeing less than a volt rather than almost 5 volts on signal wire, can anybody help me out here? Where was the wire located so we know where to start looking? The manager basically told me that it would be hard to trade now that I had so many miles on the car (~65,000), that I should have traded earlier when we talked about during the previous 7 repairs. But I did get the guy who checks you in to drive it. Work in progress on my just acquired delapidated 2003 Vivo 11 Junior in need of TLC. 3 times in 9 months is not expected and not appreciated. For wires you connect the wires of the meter, the meter sets the voltage to the best value in the range 0-2V 3. I have had many cars in 30 years, but this is by far the most unreliable I have ever owned. This is a common issue on the Shogun Pinin and will result in poor performance and a lack of acceleration. The POCUK - it's not just a Club, it's a way of life! We're neighbours :-). Thank for the input!! Will post pics. - turn off, wait 30 seconds, start again. Equally the wireless door control seemed to operate better now. Keen to see what you can find FORDEM, I only had a quick browse of the manual but didnt see anything. Haven't had a problem since 10/08 UNTIL this morning when the same thing happened again. Wow, it sounds like you've really been having a rough time. This time they replaced the throttle body something or other. The throttle body on the Mitsubishi Pinin has been a problem area and a common fault especially on the earlier models. The Body Boutiq LA. They have replaced the pedal position sendor, the throttle body assembly and adjusted numerous . Showing 1 - 14 of 14 results. In the service manual I cant even find a break down of parts to see what they even call it. The dealership I work with is good. pin 1 to 4 reads maximum value same as throttle wide open. See the exact price for your car. Is it available for download on the site? The throttle valve regulates the supply of air to the internal combustion engine. Fuel consumption is pretty high when driving short distances. Note: iOs were not locally released here in the Philippines, really struggling for parts and trying to know some reliable sources with good prices that would ship overseas, , thank you, really struggling as iOs were not locally released here in the Philippines:(. How to fix - YouTube 0:00 / 4:40 GDI motor Mitsubishi. Come on Claude - did you even look in the resource section? the cleaner stuff is about 9 quid a bottle, so worth ago. JP - which part of South America are you - I don't think there too many countries in South America with the right hand drive used JDM vehicles, I just happen to be in one of them. likely a beetle was jamming it.. Why not just go to the wreckers and get one off a lancer or magna 2.4lt ? As far as I know, the procedure is simply to start and let it idle for 15 minutes after reconnecting the battery- at least I think that what the FSM says - I would look it up, but my copy of the FSM is not installed on this computer. I think it has gone wrong rather than needing re-setting. Very interesting, The probablem started when I changed my battery. Will give this a try. crack open the engine manual (13) and go to 13C96-13C97 for MPI TPS setting. Needless to say I will never again purchase a Mitsubishi and will pass the info along to my friends. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. 1. im new in this group. Third, I have not touched the idle screw so I assume it will still be OK. Last, thanks for the advice..I think a diagnostician should be able to spot the fault and set it right if it is doable. Car body: Car body type: Closed Off-Road Vehicle; Technical data: Engine code: . . The dealer tells me that they have never seen problems like this.guess I'm the only one??? First on was the Idles sensor and a quick fire up..oooops, idle shot you to an insane 3000rpm and stayed there. iOs were not locally released here in the Philippines:(. Models affected: Solution: There was some moments when I thought it seemed to run better but then no. Second, I booked a full diagnostic test only a few hours ago for the morning as I am not 100% sure what is causing the fluctuating idle and I am now getting pissed off with it (but I bet it is the TPS). 93 Reviews. Its black plastic on the intake manafold. this will erase the "driver profile" in the ecu. Thank you!!!! Good Luck to you - my advice would be to be contact Mitsubishi the very second it happens again. My battery shows a low charge so that is what is causing the issue!!! It lists the throttle body as a whole, but doesnt going any more specific then that. don't press the brake or accelerator pedals either. I have not called the BBB yet but that is next on my list. good luck. That is supposed to be where they are earning their big bucks, solving Mitsubishi technical glitches like the one you guys are having here. To my surprise my daughter manipulated the passenger window switch while we just started to go somewhere and I noted that the passenger window started to be operative again. How much does Clean Throttle Body cost in Palmdale, CA? After the district manager got involved, I took my car back in last Friday so that the dealership could "fix the problem". Amayama (avail from UK too) have it for around $100. Thanks for the bulletin - I also drive a used JDM iO with a GDI engine - I don't have idle issues, but I find the fuel consumption to be somewhat high, so I'm certainly going to give this a try. After a while it starts to run better, but only idles at 300-500. But they do sell the controllers, for 170 dollars. If it's part of your state's tort laws. Hi everyone, please see below a short description of how to reach the throttle body and cleaning process.To reach the throttle body is really easy. Entdecke NEU DROSSELGEHUSE FR MITSUBISHI PAJERO SHOGUN 3.2DID 4M41 V88/V98 (2006 EIN) in groer Auswahl Vergleichen Angebote und Preise Online kaufen bei eBay Kostenlose Lieferung fr viele Artikel! Your definitive guide to Clean Throttle Body in Palmdale, CA. As a side issue for today, I see the TPS (Throttle Position Sensor) looks like it can be fitted in slightly different positions on the throttle body as there are slots rather than bolt holes which allow some rotation. Used multi-meter to check resistance of connector B115 to ECM connector B112. Johnicue, I got a controller just likes your today from a wreckers for 10 bucks. Our local experts will collect and deliver your car to your door and make sure you get the right job done at a fair price. Infact when I first start the car it will just stall if I dont use the accelerator a bit. Towing 3 times in 9 months is bad enough.you've taken it in 8 times. I should have kept my Audi. I am thinking i might pull that small section from a old io at the wreckers and see if i can work out which bit is faulty. MITSUBISHI PAJERO PININ (H6_W, H7_W) 2.0 GDI (H67W, H77W) (95 kW / 129 . Perhaps it won't work for MPI ? I went through the whole complaint / arbitration process with Mitsubishi and they refused to acknowledge that there was anything wrong with my car because it was in working order at the time I filed the complaint. Popular models requesting throttle bodies over the last 90 days have been Lancer Equippes, Lancer Juro Di-ds, Lancers, L200 Di-d 4x4 Barbarian Dcb LWBs and Shogun Pinin Mirage Gdis. I am having the same problem with my 06 Outlander. Well the TPS and IS both arrived at the same time in sparate boxes big enough to take half a dozen of each - such a waste on postage - so I decided to have a fit. This time turn on aircon, rear window heater, headlights, everything that causes a load on the engine. - was full of bits of crap that had fallen in during an air filter replacement. my question here is, pin 1 being a ground? Turn ignition switch is "ON". ENGINE VALVE LIFTERS PROBLEMS: 1999 Mitsubishi Pajero iO; mitsubishi pajero io 1999 3 comments: tamika bedneau Dominica, st. georges, Roseau: Jun 17, 2010: Hi everyone, please see below a short description of how to reach the throttle body and cleaning process.To reach the throttle body is really easy. I have adjusted the throtle cable a bit but it didnt do much. i have been doing some trouble shooting to try solve the low rpms and limp mode and constant shut down of engine but as for getting your idle sorted out the iac valve only distributes power evenly according to what ever strain or load the jeep is under wether turning or ac on etc. The throttle body is slightly blackened and the 4x4 has done 96,000 miles i asked the dealer and he said if not the throttle body it would be the valves coking up and that would be an 8 to 10 hour job, no mention of bolting a compressed air gun to the inlet manifold as i see you have suggested on another thread? Keep your receipts. If there's any kind of a hill with an incline, I hold my breath and hope for the best. I took mine off on Sunday. The throttle body can get clogged up with a carbon build up. I can't recall if I did that each time but the idle speed defo improved when I simply cleaned out the sensor recess. ALSO it may be an idle stepper motor however hopefully not - setting the TPS will take 5 mins, a new TPS from ebay will be about $20, a new idle stepper motor will be about $200 :(, First..I can't even find a listing for a TPS for a Pinin and something like this is close to the Mitsubishi EO price. I suspect you would need to start it by disconnecting the battery and reconnecting it. You might also need to buy a cold air intake, an EVO Throttle body, camshafts, cam gears, valve springs, fuel rail, and 450 cc fuel injectors. I was under the impression this shouldnt happen as the idle air controller valve should keep the engine happy with air. You just . Because my battery was close to the 5-years I decided to buy a new one to replace the old one. GENUINE Engine Throttle Body For Mitsubishi L200 B40 2.5TD/DID 3/06>ON 1450A033. It was ~ 5:30 pm and the technicians were not there. going through issues with our iO as well..finding this thread extremely useful, could you kindly confirm if this would work on our iO? I wrote down exactly what was in the service report of my car in my post -- ("High resistance on pin 7 connector ZB115. A quick Google searchfound that - but WHERE? Extremely low idle 250-300 Rpm, Hesitation on pull off and odd Missfire when in traffic with foot on brake and poor gas milleage. Looking to book a throttle body replacement for your Mitsubishi Pajero Pinin? There is a themostat that is kinda a sensor. Mine will have to wait until Sunday! Throttle Body. This procedure fixed my idle problems once. Unless there is one listed there that doesnt, but I can not see it. If they show that you've gone to their manufacturer-backed shop at least 3 times to get that same item repaired, you qualify under the Lemon Law. The car will suddenly decelerate and even with the gas pedal to floor will only go ~ 30 MPH. TOP DEAL Order Throttle position sensor for MITSUBISHI Shogun Pinin (V60) 2.0 GDI (H67W, H77W) 129 hp easily at AUTODOC Fast delivery and low prices Discover now for yourself . Hi, kcole: I have a 2007 Outlander XLS and TRUST ME, you are not the only one. Initially it presented the following errors: P0420 P0300 P0190 Unstable idle Braking force not constant despite the applied force on the pedal The P0300 error was solved by replacing the ignition coils, as the previous ones presented a lot of corrosion inside the pipe. Skin Care. I would read batman47's post above and follow his advice about trying to go there when a Mitsubishi representative come to one of their garages. Dealer has replaced the computer, then the electronic sensors (according to Mitsubishi Technical Service Bulletin that came out this year). And both of your Outlanders have been "looked at" by your Mitsu dealer's service department by now, with unsatisfactory results? I would really like to read the entire manual. OK guys, is this the right idle sensor do you think. Load tested circuit in question. I asked for the Mitsubishi customer service number and he said that was basically all I could do. Which perty much includes the Lower 48 states, Hawaii and Alaska! The 1.5L though is a much simliar engine to mine. They agreed to that. Could rev it up but not down. Shop Catalog. - turn off, wait 30 seconds, start again and let it idle for 10 minutes. Let me know how you go if you do it first! Mitsubishi / Volvo throttle bodies. I could only find a service bulletin about the GDI engines in the manual. On the GDI engines, it can be adjusted using a DVM - I presume the same can be done on the MPI, but I don't have access to the details. Topic Options. It's really too bad, because I do love the car and would love to get another Outlander, but this problem is just too major for me to overlook. Wouldn't the component be shared with other Mitsi 1.6l engines of that time? You will notice that the engine has a very erratic idle. If your battery was disconnected recently, you may have to get the ECU to relearn the idle settings. 3. I bought 5dr pinin in march when i got rid of my lwb sj, I was unaware that it had a gdi engine until i got it, I have had a few problems with it, slight hesitancy/misfire traced to throttle body not being clean, mitsubishi suggested full decoke at 500 got it sorted by independant garage 80, also had a wheel bearing ,and exhaust rear box but both of those are consumables really and will . I have the GDI, Japanese domestic model, second hand import to South America. The car was 4-years old. On the right side of the throttle body? For that price it's almost worth buying a60mm throttle body from rpw! Topic View. I think their throttle bodies require you to use your current idle speed controller. Mine does look different to yours as well. They replaced the throttle body after the first 7 repairs and since the issue didn't recur until 2 yrs later, they figure the battery is the problem. They have replaced the pedal position sendor, the throttle body assembly and adjusted numerous things. Mine looks a little different to yours, I gave it a clean, but no difference. When it came to starting the car for the 20 minutes it wouldnt even idle for 5 seconds let alone 20 minutes. I am checking with a legal rep. to see. http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/426435592/Fast_Idle_Air_Valve_For_Mits http://gzhaoxiang.en.alibaba.com/product/513566232-210404413/MITSUBISHI_LANCER_4G18_Idle_Air_Control_Valve_MD619857.html. Guyana, South America - West Indies fever. Pajero IO GDI,4G93,1.8 Pinin,Hesitant.Problem: The throttle body can get clogged up with a carbon build up. Throttle Valve Closed Position Learning. It was as if I was treating the symptoms but not the problem. Thanks for the information. SO I called and they were very accomadating, got right back in touch, created a case file and a case manager was assigned - very nice lady. We replaced the sensor and it didn't work. then reconnect the battery, start theengine, turn on the a/c AND let it idle for about 20-30 minutes. They ended up replacing the main computer in my car and I never had the problem again. This is the reason I am pointing people to the manuals located in the resource section of the forum - hopefully Mitsubishi is an authoritative source. I heard it was pricey. recomended 95 or 98 here in australia due to the false octane ratings at the pump (92 is actually closer to 85). I have had similar problems with my '06 Outlander as what I've been reading on this message board, and I think I have gotten my car fixed for real this time. I expect I'll end up replacing bot TPS and IS. With the holidays it has been hard to. Try cleaning the plug, launch some petrol cleaner, redex etc in the cylinder ( few drops ) and then the whole bottle in the tank, give t a rev up for a while ( thrash it as we used to call it when i was 17 ) see what happens. Make sure that the throttle valve moves during above 10 seconds by confirming the operating sound. Mitsubishi pinin 2.0 gdi problem egr + fuel pressure pump Mitsubishi GDI fault code P0190 and how to x it, 4G94 engine, 2.0 . What is FSM?, I am sure that you didn't mean "Females Seeking Males", My io is now SOLD Thankshttp://pajerio.com/forum/claudes-io-2002-zr-built-thread-onlyhappy-io. I have had the same problems you have encountered. Cheaper to buy a complete throttle body from the wreckers for $200, as they won't sell me the part on it's own. With the valve out, the car will idle at 2k even with the butterfly fully shut. The closest dealer is 2 hours away. So fired it up and the idle is back to sanity even if not perfect at around 1000rpm. Been buying cars from them for years. I have voltmeters all over the place. Thanks for watching and don't forget: Explore Without Limits! If you find my content helpful please become a channel member! Subscribe for more YouTube clips: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ4UDFjpQ0Se1TkBgYcmIhgDon't Forget to LIKE SUBSCRIBE SHARE part number 07703 for my 2.0L version, not sure if it's the same for the 1.6L. (sometimes the engine light goes off and then a few days later the problem occurs again always when the foot is off the accelerator) We have had the throttle body redone, 3 different garages including a Mitsubishi one have looked at it and can't come up with a definite solution. Keep us updated! It looks like you're new here. Google searches whatever sources it can and indexes it, so that you get a link based on the key words you choose - I won't go into the ways that Google can be manipulated (or poisoned) to move results higher or lower or even concealed, I'll just point out that it can be done. It is fitted with 4 screws only and underneath you'll find the throttle body. I use an EGR cleaner - I bet it is all the same stuff really. Each time I have been assured this will "fix it". my jeep used to idle at 1500 no ac and with ac on 1000 and its been this way close to 8 years and what i happened accross to change this after it warms up a little bit and this is because i cleaned the two parts havent gotten new ones as yet (coolant sensor and coolant temperature fan switch) i would let it idle for a few minutes and it would level out at 1000 so i guessing the new one would work better. Althought I think they only came with 1.5L and 1.8L. Ill try find a photo. Edit: found the picture of your car, Guyanese plates. The Mitsubishi Pajero Owners Club Forum Index. Your definitive guide to Throttle Body Replacement in Palmdale, CA. Got mine back this morning after a week with the usual assurances that this will fix the problem. The Idle Air Control Valve or IAC for 4g94 is sold in chinese Websites : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Idle-Speed-Control-AIR-CONTROL-VALVE-MD628319-For-Mitsubishi-Pajero-Pinin-Motero-IO-Lancer/32787921109.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.7CgwPv, https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Idle-Air-Control-Valve-MD628319-for_1179441957.html?spm=a2700.7724838.0.0.e6F1Fv&s=p, Idle Air Control Valve MD628319 for MITSUBISHI, CAR BRAND: Chrysler Sebring2001-2005, IDLE SPEED CONTROL VALVE IAC ISC MITSUBISHI PAJERO iO QA 4G93 1.8L(1999-2001) 4G94 2.0L(2001-2002), http://pajerio.com/forum/claudes-io-2002-zr-built-thread-onlyhappy-io, www.pajerio.com - Pajero iO / TR4 / Pinin Forums. I told her that I feel the car is not sellable due to the recurring problems it has. Pin 1 to pin 3 varies with throttle opening from low/closed to high/open. lol. The engine management light is not coming on and apparently no fault code, local garage suspect throttle body again but it is not the same fault we had in France (had to have car towed back) Is there anything less expensive to check first,or obvious cause? The Air Flow system is held in place by some bolts with one end connected to the throttle body top and the other side conencted to the air flow pipe leading towards the air filter box. Of course, if you have a more authoritative source, I'd love to hear about it. It would be nice to have a button on the dash that dispenses some STP into the air intake as I drive. Just dunno if this is enough or not. A typical throttle body replacement cost in the UK ranges between 343 - 658. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191225823452?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPa MD628318 is the old one - was superceeded by MD628319 - both should do the same job. It needs to be replaced and that should fix everything. Just to follow on from above, engine management light came on so local garage did diagnostic, ex-mitsubishi mechanic there luckily. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191225823452?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2F if i am right - you have a 1.8L MPI engine -, TPS MD628074idle solenoid MD628318 or MD628319. have cleaned throttle body mainly a bit sooty on underside of butterfly valve, breather pipe was slightly oily and some oily deposits in plastic manifold near breather pipes connection. What's happened with yours since April? Still room for improivement then! 0.8Kohms i'm pretty sure is what you are looking for from 1-3 when throttle sitting closed. Now then idle solenoid MD628318 or MD628319 Is that Mitsy number or what? I think its only the one for the 1.8 and 2L though, so I am out of luck. You cannot assume that because you found it on the internet it is correct. Well, haven't posted since August the 14th. I couldnt find any reference to it in the service manual. Then I took off the new IS and put the old one back but waitthe new one does not have a spring on it. Best wishes from Minnnesota. The throttle body is slightly blackened and the 4x4 has done 96,000 miles i asked the dealer and he said if not the throttle body it would be the valves coking up and that would be an 8 to 10 hour job, no mention of bolting a compressed air gun to the inlet manifold as i see you have suggested on another thread? Credit where credit is due, I think natsterrr found the bulletin. It kinda idled average for that 20 minutes, but then I remembered I had the throttle cable adjusted so it was keeping the butterfly open a little all the time to stop stalling. OK.it happened again on Sep 3 while driving up an interstate on-ramp. The hole where the air comes from is very large, and after the air filter, so i doubt its blocked. Well I am pretty sure thats it. Also it was mainly actually because of this problem that I got rid of the car. I know the drill. It is regrettable to read about your description of your Outlander problem. The service guy at the dealership told me that if the mechanic/tech hadn't found the paint build-up on that wire that they would have started taking my dashboard apart (to pinpoint where the electrical issue was) and it would have cost thousands of dollars in labor! Personally - following what I recall to be the FSM procedure -I haven't noticed any significant difference in how my engine runs from the way I was doing it before- reconnect the battery, start the engine and drive. I've heard of cars having wierd electrical gremlins caused by a low battery so maybe that is the case. check to see if the throttle body is clean they dont like any carbon buildup. I know Mitsu is supposed to be a reliable vehicle (I did some SERIOUS homework before buying this car) but not this one. Once the TPS has been removed how do I know where it should be positioned at when refitted and if it is replaced in a position which is a few degrees out is that likely to cause fluctuating idle. pinin gdi throttle body problem or something new? In fact they have this documented in a repair guide or something. Hey mate, mine has been doing the same thing for the last two months.
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